Dean Hanson – Cessna TTx FIKI TKS Testimonial

Dean Hanson lives in Minnesota and flies throughout the United States, primarily in the Upper Midwest. He owns a 2017 Cessna TTx equipped with Flight Into Known Icing (FIKI) certified TKS Ice Protection.

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How did you get started in aviation?

In 1978, I got my pilot’s license as something fun to do. I enjoy flying for both business and pleasure.

Why did you choose TKS?

I know that I am going to encounter icing, especially during the winters in Minnesota. I wanted to have an ice protection system on the airplane that would allow me to safely descend or ascend through icing conditions so that I do not have to be worried that my airplane will ice up and I find myself in a very dangerous situation.

TKS was a factory-installed option. I selected it because I felt that it was a critical part to having a modern and safe airplane, especially since I am based in one of the northern states where there is a lot of icing conditions.

What does TKS do for your mission?

The TKS system is important to me because I know that I can go into clouds and have a mechanism by which my aircraft can be kept clean of ice and therefore continue to have well-functioning aerodynamic properties.

I’m in charge of all the new home design for my company, Hanson Builders. Because we are the leader for new home design in the Minneapolis area, I need to frequently go outside of our local market to find creative ideas for new products and designs. To do that I fly to different areas in the United States to look at what is being built in those sections of the country. This inspires new, creative ideas that I am able to implement in the Minnesota market.

Any truly memorable experiences in icing?

During my instrument rating, which occurred in Cloquet, Minnesota (with Venture North), we did a lot of flying in actual IMC. The icing was very prevalent. Airplanes without FIKI were grounded (would have been very unsafe to fly them). While flying in the clouds and running the TKS system, my airplane was completely clean with no ice accumulation on the airfoil systems. The propeller, the hood, the windshield, all the wing surfaces, the tail surfaces, and the vertical and horizontal stabilizers were totally clear of any ice.  This was in spite of the fact that I spent a lot of hours in IMC. There was ice buildup on the landing lights and wheel fairings, which are unprotected areas, so that is to be expected. It’s amazing how well it works. The even distribution of the deicing fluid over the aircraft made for an extremely effective, clean airframe.

 

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Colin S. – Diamond DA42 FIKI TKS Testimonial

Colin S. lives in Southern California, and flies coast to coast and around the Pacific Northwest. He owns a 2007 Diamond DA42 equipped with Flight Into Known Icing (FIKI) certified TKS Ice Protection.

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How did you get started in aviation?

11 years ago we bought land way out in the desert. After a couple of 3+ hours drives, my wife suggested looking for another method to get out there. On Google Maps I saw that Twentynine Palms had a little airport and googled “santa monica learn to fly.” We sold the land in the desert, but having the plane became our second home. We have crossed the country in the Diamond DA42 over a dozen times.

Why did you choose TKS?

TKS came with the plane, but I was only interested in planes that had it. I looked at the Diamond DA42 and the Cirrus SR22, both FIKI certified.

What does TKS do for your mission?

I still refuse to launch into FIKI conditions, but if it looks like I might have to descend through some visible moisture below freezing I am no longer panicked.

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Kevin D’Angelo – Cessna 210L TKS Testimonial

Kevin D’Angelo lives near Buffalo, New York. He has flown his Cessna C210L with No-Hazard TKS Ice Protection all over the United States, Canada and parts of the Caribbean for over 27 years.

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How did you get started in aviation?

It started when I was a kid looking at seaplanes. I love the water and boating. Aviation was always in the back of my mind. I’ve had my pilot’s license since 1981. But the thing that got me into flying was my wife’s parents who live about a 5.5 hour drive away; I knew there had to be a better way to see the relatives. One time flying on US Airways, I found a coupon for a discovery flight that was 15 bucks. I clipped the coupon off and took it to my local FBO’s Cessna Pilot Training Center. Took the first ride with my instructor, came back down and loved it. Then I went to ground school and got my license six months later.

Why did you choose TKS?

Back then I was starting to fly with Angel Flight. I enjoy the charity flying. In western New York it’s difficult to plan a flight from October through May.  Wouldn’t do that without some kind of ice protection, and TKS attracted me. Your company came to the Flying Dentists Association and talked about the system. It was the best way to add to the plane, and functionally seemed like the best system out there.

What does TKS do for your mission?

Having TKS allows me to plan flights that I couldn’t without. For example, two weeks from now I couldn’t plan a flight from Buffalo to Syracuse. I don’t know if there would be icing conditions that would cancel the flight. TKS has really opened up my whole world of flying.

Any truly memorable experiences in icing?

It was after my wife disagreed with the amount of money I spent on the TKS system. The first time I went flying with her, we started to see some ice forming. I flipped the switch and the ice went right off. She said, “That was the best investment you ever made.” As soon as she saw the functionality, she was all for it. She became a believer.

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Nathan T. – Beechcraft A36 Bonanza TKS Testimonial

Nathan T. lives in the Great Lakes region, primarily flies throughout the Midwest and Great Lakes, and has flown around the East Coast, Florida Keys, California and Colorado. He owns a 2001 Beechcraft A36 Bonanza equipped with No-Hazard TKS Ice Protection, which he has been flying for over 10 years.

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How did you get started in aviation?

It was a boyhood dream. Any time I went past an airport, my head was on a swivel. I started taking lessons in 1999.

Why did you choose TKS?

It was the best system available for my Bonanza, better than boots. I had not personally had experience with boots before. But knowing what boots do and what I perceive to be the limitation of boots, with the ongoing maintenance—how they need to be replaced, the rubber gets old after a while—I thought that TKS was a more effective system.

What does TKS do for your mission?

It allows me to get out of potentially dangerous situations. Since I live in the Great Lakes and have had ice in June not too far from my home airport, TKS allows me to fly comfortably all year round.

Anyone who wants to complete their mission during the winter with peace of mind would benefit from having TKS.

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Robert Neises – Cessna 182P TKS Testimonial

Robert Neises lives in Northwest Indiana. He has flown his Cessna C182P with No-Hazard TKS Ice Protection all over the United States and Canadian provinces for over 8 years.

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How did you get started in aviation?

I travel a lot to hunt and fish, and never had time to drive. Commercial airlines don’t put you where you hunt and fish.

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Why did you choose TKS?

Boots aren’t available on a Cessna 182. Before the 182 I had a P210, which I got rid of to get into something I could get into more short fields with. So I got the 182 with the Peterson conversion and the bigger engine. Extended the wingtips and added extra fuels tanks. I was happy with the 210 because I could get above some weather, but I couldn’t get into some short fields.

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What does TKS do for your mission?

Around the Midwest they forecast ice about 5-6 months per year. If you don’t have any system at all and you want to fly IFR, you’re pretty much out of luck because they forecast ice more days than they don’t forecast it. With the TKS, as long as you’re not flying into known ice, you can always change your altitude and get out of it.

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Have you flown in aircraft with other ice protection systems?

Yes, I have flown with boots. TKS is a much better system.

If the boots don’t work and ice builds up, it’s too late. If you break off too thin, there is the chance that the ice will not break off. Then it gets hollow underneath when the boots deflate. It’s not something that normally happens, but it can and does.

The TKS keeps ice off the whole wing area, the whole shroud, the cowling and the air cleaner. Of course you can’t see it, but I have never had to use alternate air since I got it. TKS keeps the ice off.  With the system, when you turn it on before takeoff, you’re not going to get any ice through layers.

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Jim S. – Beechcraft A36 Bonanza TKS Testimonial

Jim S. lives in New England and primarily flies throughout New England, the Upper Midwest and the Eastern Seaboard. He owns a 1997 Beechcraft A36 Bonanza equipped with No-Hazard TKS Ice Protection, which he has been flying for over 4 years.

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How did you get started in aviation?

I started flying around 20 years ago after a co-worker introduced me to the idea.

Why did you choose TKS?

TKS is a superior solution compared to pneumatic boots. I have greater confidence that TKS will not fail mid-flight when I need and ask it to perform. There are trade-offs when comparing TKS to boots or unprotected wings. For me, TKS hits the sweet spot on everything.

What does TKS do for your mission?

To be honest, having the system hasn’t improved my own dispatch rate significantly because I have no need to be at a particular place at a particular time. I’m still inclined to sit out weather where TKS would make the difference in dispatching versus not dispatching. Once I am airborne and encounter conditions en route that might have been unforecast or unavoidable, it’s confidence inducing to see the wet wing panels and no ice adherance whatsoever.

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Jon W. – Diamond DA42 FIKI TKS Testimonial

Jon W. lives in the Midwest, and primarily flies throughout the Midwest, East Coast and the South. He owns a 2006 Diamond DA42 equipped with Flight Into Known Icing (FIKI) certified TKS Ice Protection, which he has been flying for over 4 years.

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How did you get started in aviation?

I live in Sioux Falls and mostly use the airplane to commute to Chicago and Minneapolis.

Why did you choose TKS?

I got into a serious icing situation coming into KPWK in a Diamond DA40.  Two minutes in the clouds and the airplane looked like an icicle when I got on the ground.

What does TKS do for your mission?

TKS has definitely opened the flying envelope. I fly year-round and am no longer nervous pushing through a layer to get on top. Still, I avoid serious icing conditions.

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Have you had any memorable experiences with TKS?

It was a simple approach into Sioux Falls. The airplane picked up a lot of ice on unprotected surfaces during the descent . Where the panels are it was perfectly clean. That definitely gave me confidence in the system.

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Randal W. – Beechcraft V35B Bonanza TKS Testimonial

Randal W. lives in the Midwest and flies throughout the Midwest, East, South and West. He owns a 1973 Beechcraft V35B Bonanza equipped with No-Hazard TKS Ice Protection, which he has been flying for over 10 years.

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How did you get started in aviation?

I have always had a passion for aviation and have family members in aviation. Developed a medical legal consulting practice that necessitates flying, so I fly almost daily.

Why did you choose TKS?

Because I live in the Midwest and fly almost daily year-round, there is a need for ice protection. Anyone whose business requires travel on a daily basis will benefit from TKS.

What does TKS do for your mission?

TKS allows me to fly all winter.

Any truly memorable experiences in icing with TKS?

Always gives me peace of mind.

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Scott M. – Beechcraft F33 Bonanza TKS Testimonial

Scott M. lives in the West and flies throughout the United States and Mexico. He owns a 1975 Beechcraft F33 Bonanza equipped with No-Hazard TKS Ice Protection, which he has been flying for over 10 years.

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How did you get started in aviation?

Always had a desire to fly but had to wait until I was about 30 to fund the lessons.

Why did you choose TKS?

TKS is insurance to get rid of the ice if I ever encounter unexpected icing conditions.

What does TKS do for your mission?

I will fly in marginal weather using the TKS system to get on top of any potential icing and again when descending.  My Bonanza is turbo normalized by Tornado Alley and I typically fly around FL200 – FL210.

Any truly memorable experiences in icing with TKS?

The first time I used TKS, it was amazing to see how it took the ice off.

 

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Todd Sanderson – Beechcraft C55 Baron FIKI TKS Testimonial

Todd Sanderson lives in New England and owns a 1967 Beechcraft C55 Baron that is equipped with Flight Into Known Icing (FIKI) certified TKS Ice Protection.

The post below from Beechtalk.com is used with Mr. Sanderson’s permission.

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Was able to put TKS to the test today.

Flew to Racine, Wisconsin and back in freezing IMC across Lake Michigan. About an hour trip each way. On the way there I mostly was below the clouds and had some impact snow on the leading edges after landing. Did not use the TKS as I wanted to build up some ice and see how it handled the ice after it already formed.

So, 1 1/2 hours later a warm front is moving in and ceilings go down. I prime the system on the ground, but do not leave it on. I enter IMC at 2500 ft and start picking up ice at 3500 ft with my final altitude at 7000 with light rime being constant. After the windshield gets covered I flipped on the TKS and wait. The tail now has probably 1/4 inch on it, but I have not lost any speed. I really can’t see the leading edges of the wings other than the left inboard which starts to peel off the ice immediately. After roughly 30 minutes the tail starts to shed ice off the left side and is completely clean (Temp was 14F.) The right side shed about 1/2 the surface area.

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After landing I looked the whole plane over. The props were completely clean other than the front of the spinners. Left tail was clean, right tail about 1/2 clean. Right and left wings were about 1/2 clean as well. The vertical was 100% clean. The inlets air inlets on the side of the cowls had about 1/2″ ice on the front lip and so did the comm antennas, but there was no ice anywhere else on the plane. I think that the slinging TKS does a good job of coating the airframe.

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The windshield easily shed the ice with two momentary cycles of the switch.

So, given time the TKS will shed the ice – even almost 20F below freezing; however, it would be wise to have it operating well in advance of the ice. In fact, I am going to carry a small 1/2 gallon sprayer to spray the leading edges or whatever needs de-iced if ice is already on the plane.

BTW, I used just over 2 gallons in the 40 minutes or so I had the system on. I had it on “maximum for roughly 7 minutes during that time.

Anyway, the system works – just need to use it correctly.

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The real bonus to this plane is the FIKI TKS system. This system makes icing virtually a non-issue when flying in freezing conditions. I have owned Barons, Dukes, 310s and many other planes with boots and there is absolutely no comparison. The TKS fluid covers the entire air frame making it impossible for ice to stick to anything. Please see the attached pictures showing the ice on the unprotected wingtips vs the rest of the plane. We were in icing conditions for an hour over Lake Michigan and lost no discernible airspeed. The only ice was on the wingtips, the comm antenna, and the prop spinners. I can’t stress enough what a great safety tool this is if you fly in icing conditions. If you cancel a trip, it will not be due to icing forecasts.Todd S - Beechcraft C55 Baron FIKI 03

Now, having owned 10 aircraft with boots let me tell you what I did not like about them:

  1. Boots need cleaned (scrubbed) to keep bugs and grime off. They also need stripped to get old sealant off before you put new on. You then have to put new sealant on which is dirty and takes time. I spent about 10 hours a year just keeping the boots nice.
  2. Boots require proper grounding using special “glue” and if it is not done right the boots get pin holes from static electricity.
  3. Boots get holes from debris or just use and age. Patches look horrible.
  4. Boots realistically last 15 years if you treat them right. They can last 20+ years in a hangar if the plane is not flown much. Figure about $1000 per year for maintenance and replacement.
  5. The total weight of a booted plane is about the same as a TKS plane with fluid when you take into consideration that you no longer need a pressure system if you have a glass panel.
  6. Not having to replace a $600 pressure pump every year or two is nice. Also nice having to replace regulators and the $1350 “shuttle valve” under the floor that nobody replaces on it’s 10-year schedule.
  7. With the 2 extra gallons of fluid I carry I have about 3+ hours of icing protection. The longest time expected to *stay* in icing conditions is about an hour maximum. I can’t imagine having a trip away from home where I would need 3+ hours of protection.
  8. Most booted planes have heated props which are not as effective as the TKS and are maintenance intensive. I have replaced my fair share of prop heater boots, brushes, and “timers” – many of which have been discontinued and are priced like unobtanium. Any FIKI booted plane also has a horrible $7k heated windshield strip that rarely works and is ugly. I have flown enough of them to learn to hate them.
  9. The boots do not keep ice off the airframe like TKS does. I was in constant ice for 30 minutes and had little icing on the plane.
  10. I had a FIKI booted 210 that nearly killed me due to it’s inability to remove ice that this plane system would have not struggled with. Rich Kaplan was so disgusted with his FIKI 210 that he replaced it with TKS.

I do agree the fluid is a little bit of work, but it is nothing compared to maintaining boots to keep them healthy and looking good. I also agree that the TKS leaves a couple puddles in the hangar if you don’t turn off the TKS before you land. Having owned both systems I will take the TKS.

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